Formation riding

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The rate at which this club has been growing during the last year has led to a number of new riders on most rides. These new riders are most welcome. They do, however, ask a number of standard questions about the process of the ride. This article will use the collective experience of the committee members. This is not trying to impose a set of “school” rules, but intends to explain the guidelines that the club has been using. This article is aimed at on-road rides, in off-road conditions a slightly different set of guidelines are used. ==Drivers briefing:== This is actually an incredibly important part of the ride. During the welcoming phase visitors are identified (if not identified earlier). Visitors that are on their first group ride and any other riders that want to ride slowly are encouraged to ride just behind the group leader (right at the front). The front of the group is much slower than at the back, this will be explained later. Next the destination and route are discussed. Should the group be split by something as mundane as a robot, it is important that everybody knows the route. As a general rule the group leader will confirm that the group is intact at each turn off. As a last resort (which only happened once during the last year), the sweeper will be used. The sweeper is another committee member that rides at the back of the group. If the group had completely split up, the sweeper will then lead those at the back to the venue. If the route includes a mountain pass, those that have a need for speed are “let loose” to go have fun in the pass. During the drivers briefing it is pointed out where this group should then wait for the group. Please also listen carefully where the group leader wants you to pass the group before the pass. Remember that we have visitors and new riders at the front and they may react slightly erratically in a mountain pass, so please be very careful when you move to the front of the group to have fun in the pass. ==Formation riding== During the drivers briefing you will be asked to ride in formation and to not overtake anybody. The previous paragraph explained the need for good behaviour inside the group. What is this “formation”? The group leader rides at the front of the group, and decides to ride on the right (or left) of the lane. The new and slower riders follows behind the leader, the first one to the left of the leader, then right, the left, and so on. Thus nobody is directly behind the person ahead of him/her. How far should you be behind the person ahead of you? Your front wheel should never overlap his/her back wheel. If he has to move sideways to avoid something, it could have disastrous consequences. Also try to keep the gap small enough to prevent cars from forcing their way between the bikes. Please pay attention when riding in a big group. Every movement of your bike does influence those around you. Stunning formation, and look at the "bush-people" at the leftStunning formation, and look at the "bush-people" at the left ==Riding== The actual process of group riding is also a science of its own. The group leader will accelerate slowly, much slower than you would when riding on your own. When the second person sees the leader pull away he will start the process of pulling away, creating a small gap which he can quickly catch up. The third person in turn creates a small gap to the second person, which he can quickly catch up – but then he must still make up the gap to the leader. The fourth person has a slightly longer gap to make up to the leader. By the time you get to the last person …, well you get the idea. This is commonly referred to as the “concertina” effect. During a particular event, I never exceeded 120 km/h at the front, at the back some of the riders rode as fast as 180 km/h for small stretches. Now you understand why those that want to ride slowly should ride at the front. The group leader employs two strategies to minimise the concertina effect. Firstly he accelerates very slowly (to prevent an excessive stretch) and starts to slow down long before any turn offs (to bring the group back together). Should a person somewhere in the mid pack slow down or fall behind and then accelerate hard to catch up, it makes it very uncomfortable for the people behind him/her. This is outside of the control of the committee. “Do unto others, as you want them to do unto you.” The “official” club ride is from the starting point to the venue. This is done at the speed limit. After the breakfast the group often splits up. A few low-flyers go in one direction, the unlucky ones that have to get home for lunch with the in-laws and finally some others decide on a secondary location for an extended ride. Finally, this is merely an informative article, to enlighten new members. This is in no way aimed at introducing “school” rules.
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Jawohl Herr Padlangs !! See you on Sunday. Talk with the weather gods.
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Hi Chris Thanks for this. See also the guidelines I have put in the [http://bmwmotorcycleclubcape.co.za/faq Frequently Asked Questions] section, on the home page. I have tried to put as much info that a newcomer might want to look up in the FAQ. Also, I couldn't help editing your post a bit ;-) FYI you can do headings like this: ==Heading 2== ===Heading 3=== regards Charles

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Dankie Padlangs! Dis baie nuttig om sulke basiese dinge van tyd tot tyd te publiseer. Soos jy se^ daar kom gedurig nuwe ryers by, en hulle sal hierdie basiese dinge nie weet nie as iemand dit nie spesifiek vertel nie. In die 2 jaar dat ek saam met die klub ry, is daar twee dinge wat ek baie gereeld sien 1) as jy agterlangs ry, moet jy baie gereeld ver oor die spoedgrens ry om die ander in te haal. Dus, ek stem 100% saam met jou - as jy rustig wil ry, bly naby die voorpunt van die groep. 2) By elke briefing voor die rit, vra die leier dat die bikers "staggered" formasie moet ry. En elke keer is daar een of twee bikers wat die formasie deurmekaarkrap deur nie staggered te handhaaf nie, of te ver terugval agter die bike voor hom. Nog 'n opmerking - as die groep te lank uitrek, dan het die leier 'n groot probleem om die ligte (= bikes) agter hom te tel. En glo my, die leier kyk gedurig na die ligte agter hom om te probeer sien of almal by is. Ons moet dus die groep so kompak as moontlik hou - ry in staggered formasie, jyself een sekonde agter die bike skuins voor jou, 2 sekondes agter die bike reg voor jou
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Very informative Even for an old rider it is good to hear thses things over and over. Zapman Cape Town South Africa (Right now running around in Soyo Angola) 03 KL1200LT
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Thanks Charles, I trust you also gave it another spell check - dis bietjie baie Ingels vir my. Danie, met die laaste rit na Dassiesfontein moes ons "ry om daar te kom". Daar was n blomme skou naby en hulle wou ons weg he voor die middagete. Ek besluit toe om direk agter die groep leier te ry. Lekker rustig teen 115 - 120 km/h, heelpad. Elke keer wat ons iets verbysteek sien ek net hoe rek die groep, soos party sukkel om verby te kom. Die manne daar agter moes maar kol-kol oooop maak om weer in te haal. Moral of the story: If you want to ride fast, stay at the back of the group. :)
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I Disagree with this approach and I seriously hope the new Ideas Atlantic Mottorad have will help intoduce some young blood and excitement on these rides

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Hi Hayley, how about sharing your opinions here?? It is naive to think that you will ever get 200 people together that agree 100% on every single topic. I was very nervous when I first joined the club on a ride - was this a bunch of Hells Angels in disguise?? What I find excellent about this group is that, Freak and Ruan can have their friends in the sand dunes. Andy and Danie can do Middelpos and Warmbad via gravel roads. Others can have a relaxing breakfast run, on tar. AND, people like Charles can partake in any or all of these events, as and when they want - always welcome in each group. The cherry on top, no group trying to tell the other how to go about their business. Looking forward to your views, Hayley, here or via PM.
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HayleysComet: you are welcome to disagree - care to share your reasons? We are not married to formation riding and if you have a suggestion that is better we will use it if it works for us. On our West Coast trip this weekend with the Offroad Adventure Bike Club, we introduced them to our style of formation riding and they were impressed and want to use it on their rides in future. So, don't knock it until you try it. I look forward to your input on this. kind regards Charles Oertel

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Charles and Geoff, how about telling us how the off-road differs from the on-road? Possibly even a new thread. If I am to take the love of my life off-road, I should probably have to find out a few things first.
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OK, just a quickie here. We can tidy all of this thread up into a well-structured and informative article later. ==Off Road Formation== The problem with riding too close to another rider off-road is that you have: # dust, that reduces visibility, dirties your visor and damages your air-filter, and # longer stopping distances, coupled with frequent evasive action as the rider in front encounters hazards. So, the formation that Geoff uses is this: # Each rider rides far enough behind the rider in front to be out of the dust (rooster tail). This makes the trip '''much''' more pleasant and at least you can see the scenery! # Each rider looks out '''for the rider behind'''. If you notice that you don't occasionally see the headlight of the guy behind, you stop. This way, if there is an incident, everybody ends up stopping until the leader stops and turns around. # At turnoffs or intersections, each rider stops and waits to show the rider behind which way to go. The rider behinds indicates that the rider who is waiting can go by giving the thumbs-up sign. This way you don't get a portion of the group barrelling off on the wrong road. On our West Coast trip this weekend we had a broken leg and two punctures, and all incidents were easily detected by the rider leader and handled appropriately, with all members of the ride informed and under control. Website Administrator

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I would also like clarity on on HC's comment. HC what are your comments referring to? Things can only change if you state your point of view. May I ask what "young blood & excitement" you are referring to. Viva change Viva!!!! but what change are we referring to? Look forward to meaningful discussion!

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Charles your comments are correct. There is, in my opinion, no need to ride in another persons dust and the formation you refer to works well on a bike or in a vehicle.

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Sondag, op pad na Boulders in Tulbach, was ek baie beindruk met die manier waarop die bikes in formasie gery het. By een padstop het een van die bikes stadig weggekom en is 'n klomp by hom verby. Dadelik het die formasie aangepas. En ek het weer gesien hoeveel vinniger mens moet ry om in te haal as jy agter raak. Ek persoonlik ry baie rustiger as ek sien die groep hou mooi formasie - dan weet ek die ouens is wakker.
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What happened to HayleysComet? I would love to know what his view is. Of het ons die komeet gemis toe hy naby was? Nou sal ons dalk lank moet wag omdat 'n komeet baie wyd gaan draai voor hy terugkom.
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Hi Di Ho all ...just got back from the Great African GS Challenge 2007...Glad I did not miss anything.

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Wil darem ook net hier inkom en my siening deel Formasiery is n baie lekker gevoel, maar ek dink nie dit moet gewoonte wees nie. Die offroad reels is baie meer vatbaar en volgens my ook veiliger. Hier is die goue reel egter dat jy altyd die man agter jou se lig kan sien in jou spieel. Aangesien ons 90% van die tyd grondpad ry, pas ons dieselfde reel toe op teer. Raak die ou agter jou agter, ry jy stadiger en sodoende forseer jy die ou voor jou om ook stadiger te ry. As daar formasie gery word is mense geneig om te na aan mekaar te ry Daarom se ek dis n ding wat op die langpad gedoen word . Op die oop pad kan jy maklik 2 fietslengtes van die ou links of regs voor jou handhaaf , die formasie is dan nog net so indrukwekkend maar baie minder riskant. Mens wil mos darem so nou en dan kyk wat langs die pad ook aangaan. Verkeer speel ook n groot rol, hoe minder daar is hoe beter werk die struktuur, en julle almal weet hoe lyk ons land se paaie vandag.
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Jy is heeltemaal reg met jou kommentaar, maar onthou dat Formasie-ry beteken nie om te naby die ouens voor jou te ry nie. Te naby ry is gevaarlik in enige situasie. Die fisiese afstand na die bike voor jou word bepaal deur die spoed (hoe vinniger hoe groter afstand) Die bepalende faktor is dat jy (op teer) minstens twee sekondes agtertoe van die ou direk voor jou ry, en, as jy staggered formasie ry, minstens een sekonde agtertoe en halwe padwydte eenkant toe vanaf die naaste bike (links/regs) voor jou. Ja, om die ligte agter jou heeltyd te kan sien is baie belangrik. Ja, as jy wil rondkyk - val bietjie terug na drie of vier sekondes. Onthou net dat die ouens agter jou gaan die konsertina effek voel en sal later vinniger as die groep moet ry om weer in te haal.