Commuters please answer my survey!

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Considering the number of speedsters I see on my daily commute racing through the traffic and with the increase of bikes on the road I often have to wonder how many of you have near misses on a daily basis. For personal reason I’m doing a study on the motorcycle and scooter riders who commute daily, if you would like to please answer my ? below: Do you wear ATGATT (all the gear all the time?) How often do you experience a heart stopper, daily, weekly monthly or never (i.e. when a door opens unexpectedly or an unexpected lane change) Have you fallen in the last year? What is your average speed when lane splitting? Have you considered racing? Many thanks

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Bike - F650GS Dakar Riding frequency - commute seldom use car Avge traffic density - heavy esp Vanguard Drive ATGATT - No but 90% (I sometimes do the guilty thing going to the local shop). Heart stoppers - two monthly (had the bike 4 months had to dodge twice, being aware made it ok, but what if... ) Fallen in the last year - No Average speed when lane splitting - <60Km/h generally no need after 60-80 Km/h Considered racing - Not interested IF YOU CAN THINK IT YOU CAN ACHIEVE IT

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Bike - all BMWs. Riding frequency - 24/7. Avge traff density - silly Melkbos to Town. ATGATT - always . Heart stoppers - hardly ever. Fallen - one put down with knobblies on wet tar, front end wash at end of braking, speed 5kms p/h. Av speed Tableview to Town 40 km/h. Racing - If its not a competition why do they call it the human race. I RIDE THEREFORE I AM!
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'''Bike''' - 1150GS '''Riding frequency''' - Daily '''Avg traff density''' - variable, Muizenberg to Newlands but not always during peak hour. '''ATGATT''' - always '''Heart stoppers''' - hardly ever. '''Fallen''' - one put down stalling while practicing slow sharp turns in a quiet street. '''Av lane splitting speed''' - 25km/hr faster than the cars. I often stand to see pedestrians weaving through the stopped traffic and so that drivers see me approaching intersections (with the immediate thought "who is that dork?"). '''Racing''' - Not really considered it though I thoroughly enjoyed the track day. Money and time are scarce.

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Bike - R 1200 GSA Riding frequency - EVERY DAY Avge traffic density - heavy ATGATT - ALL THE TIME 100% Heart stoppers - monthly Fallen in the last year - Yes Average speed when lane splitting - <60Km/h Considered racing - Not interested Keep it SAFE !!

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Bike - 1200GS/250cc scooter (mainly scooter) Ride Freq - Not daily, usually during day. Avg Traf Dens - Often peak ATGATT - No sometimes jeans Heart Stopper - Almost never Fallen - Once in storm blown onto metal expand- joint which was wet.On scooter at time. Ave L S Speed - Varies with traffic generally faster Racing - Yes,not have the money for it.
Corné (not verified)
Bike - F650GS Riding frequency - My car battery is flat :-) EVERYDAY on the bike Avg traffic density - N1 and then M5... At least I don't have to deal with Taxi's! ATGATT - Always! Heart stoppers - monthly Fallen in the last year - No Average speed when lane splitting - 60Km/h - 70Km/h (I suppose I'm one of the racers in traffic) Considered racing - I'm interested Corné Kloppers 0849130391 ckloppers@gmail.com
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Bike - R 1200 GSA Riding frequency - EVERY DAY Avge traffic density - heavy ATGATT - 80% always jacket and gloves Heart stoppers - monthly Fallen in the last year - Yes Average speed when lane splitting - 10-15km/h faster then traffic Considered racing - like to try it one day
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Bike - 650GS Dakar Riding frequency - Everyday Avg traff density - sometimes peak traffic. ATGATT - mostly, but always have jacket and gloves Heart stoppers - nearly everyday. cage drivers make me nervous Fallen - twice - in more than 5 years riding. Av lane splitting speed - 40 - 60km Racing - nope. never. In fact I ride slower on the GS than I did on the Vespa
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Bike - Various Bikes, prefer 650's for traffic riding Riding frequency - Daily Avg traff density - variable, Meadowridge to BMW Pavilion ATGATT - always Heart stoppers - Seldom Fallen - NO Av lane splitting speed - Try not to exceed 70km/hr average is about 45km/h Racing - No, I think racing is for the totally commited, however I thoroughly enjoy the track days. Money and time well spent.

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Max. I dont commute daily, probably twice a week and anytime I have to go to town (i.e. traffic). Do you wear ATGATT? Yes How often do you experience a heart stopper? Monthly, but then I filter REALLY slowly & often have to let faster bikes past. Have you fallen in the last year? Not on the road - only off road - often :-) What is your average speed when lane splitting? Hard to say, but roughly 15-20kph faster than the cars up to 60kph then I just ride the same speed as the cars. Have you considered racing? No Dale
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Bike - R 1150GS Riding frequency - EVERY DAY Avge traffic density - medium ATGATT - 80% always jacket and gloves Heart stoppers - very seldom Fallen in the last year - Yes (offroad - sand) Average speed when lane splitting - very seldom. Mostly when traffic are standing still. Considered racing - no
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'''Bike''' - R 1150 GSA '''Riding frequency''' - commute 24/7/365, 44 oookm/annum seldom use car, all hours day & night, all weather conditions. '''Avge traffic density''' - heavy. Gordons Bay, N2- R300 - Old oak, and al the others '''ATGATT''' - YES, Always jacket/gloves/boots (80% pants too). '''Heart stoppers''' - Yea, once back in 1988. '''Fallen in the last year''' - Not on tar '''Average speed when lane splitting''' - marginally > than traffic pace. Often standing up on pegs. NEVER IN THE EMERGENCY LANES!!!!! - HATE SEEN ARSE HOLES WHO DO RIDE IN EMERG LANES!! '''Considered racing''' - Not interested Ride all around the country, our Western Cape drivers rock! They are 90% bike aware. (give CF, CEM, CAM registered vehicles a wide berth as they do not use their 3 vanity mirrrors to look behind, they tip ash into your path, weave, chop lanes, brake & any other STUPID selfish type of driving you can imagine. There is bound to be an exception out there, I've yet to meet > one in a day.) Andyman Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.

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I commute almost daily on my R1150R or on my 150cc scooter from Durbanville to Parow Industria ATGATT - Yes, except pants heart stopper- very seldom Have you fallen in the last year? - No What is your average speed when lane splitting? - 60km/h Have you considered racing? - When I was young
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William (not verified)
I Commute Daily - Milnerton to town Bike - R 1200 RT Riding frequency - EVERY DAY Avge traffic density - heavy ATGATT - jacket Heart stoppers - very seldom, I keep my eyes wide open Fallen in the last year - No Average speed when lane splitting - 10-15km/h faster then traffic Considered racing - been there, done that, and drags, in the good old days
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Bike - 1200GS Riding frequency - Daily. Back roads from De Bron, N7, N1, M5, N2, Rosebank. ATGATT - most of the time - feel naked/guilty when not on. Heart stoppers - hardly ever, I try to assume that everybody wants to take me out. Fallen - yes mostly on the dirt or sand. Also a little 'oopsi' once last year (short legs) Av lane splitting speed - 25km/hr faster than the cars. Try not to blend in with the traffic. Racing - Use to race in Sport Cars at Killarney with my little Birkin 7. Have the racing bug out of my system for now...

 

 

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Bike - R1150GS Adventure Riding frequency - commute 5 days a week Avg traffic density - heavy - Durbanville (N1 Okavango off ramp) to City - mostly during peak hours. ATGATT - always wear gloves, jacket and boots - 70% pants Heart stoppers - very seldom Fallen - not on tar Avg lane splitting speed - marginally faster than the cars, between 40 - 60 km/h. Durbanville to City: avg 35 minutes in peak traffic. Racing - Not interested
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Padlangs (not verified)
Bike - R 1100 RT Riding frequency - commute 5 days a week + rides on weekend (28 000 km in last 12 months) Avg traffic density - heavy - Bellville to Cape Town via N1 ATGATT - always wear gloves and jacket. Only use boots on weekend rides (can't where the boots at work) Heart stoppers - very seldom (Worst one when springboks visited Cape Town - one of the reckless fans clipped my rear foot pegs) Fallen - not in the last 100 000 km, touch wood Avg lane splitting speed - about 10 to 20 faster than the cars. Find that cars "push me out of their way" if I do the same speed as they do - so always a little faster than the cars. Biggest danger spot when one lane stops and the other is going at a reasonable speed - drivers just pull the steering wheel accross to get to the "faster" lane. Racing - Not interested
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Bikes .f650gs.. gsxr 1000 rr ..blade.. Riding frequency...everyday.from south peninsula to montague gardens...and then used during the day. ATTGAT....most of the time.kevlar jeans.leather.boots.good gloves. Traffic density..varied. Heart stoppers....everyday...without fail. Fallen....yes twice on tar this year..one last saterday morning @06h01 @120kph...on corner leading onto M5 from black river parkway...an accident previous evening...oil on road surface..thanks to breakdown and fire dept i guess. Slid for approx 150m on rear end and various other body parts...pants and jacket held up well. Lane splitting speed dependant on density...usually 60-80kph. Racing....have done Boland bikes track days and Mike Cameron days .
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'''Bike'''F650GS 2005 '''Riding Frequency'''Daily commute Gordon's Bay local, up and down gravel farm roads in Grabouw, to Somerset West & Cape Town - wherever my work takes me! '''ATTGAT''' - Local to shop - everything except pants, anywhere outside Helderberg ATTGAT (have to take change of clothes when going to meetings, which is a bit awkward). '''Heartstopper'''Not as yet, assume that most people aren't aware of me. However, I must say an increasing no. of drivers politely move over for me :) '''Fallen''' Only once on the dirt roads while commuting - but that was when I was still learning. '''Avg lane-split speed''' ±20kms faster than cars '''Racing?'''Never
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Bike - F650GS Dakar Yamaha XT250 and 125cc scooter Riding frequency - commute 5 days a week, regular week end rides on the Dakar, scooter to the gym or local shopping. Avg traffic density - Varied, Old Oak, R300, through Kuils River, Stellenbosch Arterial, R44. Perfect mix of country & traffic riding. Any city "weka" would be envious... ATGATT - always wear jacket & luminous yellow and reflective vest, short finger gloves and boots. Heart stoppers - 2 in 19 years Fallen - Never on road, 3X in sand (ride was way out of my league.) Avg lane splitting speed - If at all, about 10 to 20 faster than traffic up to 60 km/h. Generally, find someone traveling at a reasonable speed, tuck in behind them and enjoy the ride. Racing - No My favourite ride companions...My favourite ride companions...
Rony Desodt (not verified)
Bike - R1200GSA / R100RS / Honda CB400/4ss Riding frequency - Daily (+40000Km/year) Avg traff density - Busy, Wellington to Strand, always during peak hour in Stellenbosh. ATGATT - Tophalf Heart stoppers - Hardly ever. Fallen - Not on tar. Av lane splitting speed - Never when trafic is moving. Racing - Would love to but money and time is not available. Do it today, maybe there is no tomorrow! Die malletjie
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Intermittent commuting, probably once a week and anytime I expect to negotiate heavy traffic, eg CTN. ATGATT? Yes, always. Even to the shop/cafe Heart stopper? On tar - one in 6 months. I filter very slowly & often have to let faster bikes past. Off-road - initially every trip, lately not so often. Have you fallen in the last year? Not on tarmac. Off road - often in sand/mud. Average speed when lane splitting? Roughly 15-20kph faster than the cars up to 60kph then I just ride the same speed as the cars. Racing? No. Never want to. GK
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Bike - 1200GS Riding frequency - Daily R44 Strand to Stellenbosch Traffic density - lane splitting usually around traffic lights, some open road in between ATGATT - always Heart stoppers - seldom, had one a couple of days ago, 18 wheeler truck crossed R44 right in front of me, thank you ABS! Fallen - not for many years (touch wood) Avg lane splitting speed - 5 to 50 Racing - Not interested
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Bikes - R1150RT and 650 Dakar (Piaggio X9 500 London) Riding Frequency - Commuted by bike for over 10 years. Traffic Density - A40 London solid congestion 12 miles 5 lanes. R27 - West Beach to Cape Town ATGATT - without fail, boots, armoured suit, gloves, helmet. Heart Stoppers - Cape Town beggars belief. The stupidity is undescribable. Anticipation meant HS about 1 to 2 per month. FALLS - 1) Hit diesel on intersection of Hertzog Blvd and Heerengracht with the RT - no injuries and no damage, 60 yard slide. 2) Woman driver changed lanes, no looking, no indication and, while I was literally in the same space into which she turned - bad, am still suffering. LANE SPLITTING SPEED - make rapid progress by driving to safe spots. Don't ride down between cars as if it's a lane. RACING - Had a Ducati, Triumph and R1100s, been there and done that. Enjoy swift mountain pass runs, hate long motorways and generally sit at speed limit on those. Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safetly in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadsides, loudly proclaiming WOW, What a RIDE!
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Bike - F 650 GS Dakar Riding frequency - EVERY DAY Avge traffic density - In Langebaan, what traffic? When I go to CPT I try to avoid traffic. ATGATT - always jacket but use jeans and from now on always gloves. Heart stoppers - 2x Fallen in the last year - Yes Average speed when lane splitting - Just a bit faster than traffic when traffic is slow. When traffic flows OK I keep behind them. Considered racing - No
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Bike - 1150GS Adventure Riding frequency - Daily - Only had the bike for a short while so see my comments in that context Avg traff density - Mostly have to filter on the N1 ATGATT - always Heart stoppers - hardly ever. Fallen - Not yet. Av lane splitting speed - 15-25km/hr faster than the cars. Yes it is me always pulling off for the other riders blasting past!! Racing - I'm new at this, so not yet. Creating significant experiences

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Padlangs (not verified)
Max when are you going to give us some feedback on this?
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Padlangs, have a look at http://bmwmotorcycleclubcape.co.za/commuters-survey-results I think that's what you're looking for? Don't know why it wasn't included in the original thread. ''Vision without action is merely a dream. Action without vision just passes the time. Vision with action can change the world.''

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Padlangs (not verified)
Thanks Pete