Slipping Clutch on Funduro

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Hi everybody. Bought a 1999 Funduro with 45 000km on the clock on 15 March. Took it to BMW and was told that the bike would need a new clutch. R 2 500 quotation. I'm a bit cash strapped now. I saw this article on the web and would appreciate some feedback/suggestions. I have allready booked the bike for repair in next week, but would just like to know if this article might hold some thruth. Read Below: New Clutch Plates and Springs Installation FAQ by Kristian #562 This FAQ is about the installation of New Clutch Plates and Springs. How do you know when they’re worn? What are the Symptoms.? • The Clutch slips (or rather the Plates slip), particularly when you drive up a steel hill in low gear. • BE AWARE however, that it’s a Wet-Clutch i.e. bathed in the same Engine Oil that lubricates the rest of your bike. • "One of the most probable reasons for a slipping clutch (assuming everything is adjusted OK) is the use of EC (Energy Conserving) rated oils. (Has an EC in the API - American Petroleum Institute) star logo. Not sure if you have them in HK or Yurp, or how they are marked (probably NOT with an API symbol!) but they are very common in the US, especially with the synthetic oils. The EC additives are VERY BAD for use with wet clutches, cause excessive slippage, and are difficult to "wash" out if used - might take several oil changes. In other BMW's with a dry clutch, using EC oils is common, so it's probably a common mistake in the service shop also." • When I took mine out at about 25,000 miles to replace the Springs, the old plates JUST looked like the new ones. So my guess is a LONG time. • I can’t tell you how many miles they’ll last there is no “Magic Number”, because it depends on your driving style, whether you do a lot of highway, or lots of clutch-work (i.e. slipping) in and around town, your engine oil type, how far you drove with low engine oil or perhaps how far you drove with emulsified engine oil when your water pump fails. • So before you go wasting some money and time on New Clutch plates, try fully synthetic oil (not just the Semi-Synthetic Stuff). Ramey of Ron Woods racing has previously observed that with e.g. Redline FULLY Synthetic Oil people with Clutch Shifting Problems went away happy. I can’t say THIS will fix your problem, but try it first. You should be using Fully Synthetic after 6000 miles anyway, to protect your engine after the break-in period.

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How long has the bike been standing? If for a long time the plates may be contaminated and need ideally to be replaced. It's an easy job, certianly not 2.5k worth. When I was racing a quick fix was to boil the cork plates in water, a temporary solution. Check with the smaller bike dealers like Craigs, they may have pirate parts available, or try Aprilla - same thing just less expensive. At the end of the day if the plates are contaminated you want to replace them. If you have any mechanical savy it's not difficult and will most likely cost less than R500. good luck 2007 Dakar 2005 F650GS(hers) 2005 R1100S BCR 200? R1100S race bike (under construction) 2003 ZX6R (for sale) www.twowheels.co.za

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Forgot to mention, i think full/semi synthetic oil will make it worse, stick to cheaper SF/SG rated oil and just change it every 5000km 2007 Dakar 2005 F650GS(hers) 2005 R1100S BCR 200? R1100S race bike (under construction) 2003 ZX6R (for sale) www.twowheels.co.za

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Hi Henk I owned one of them beauties for a year and must say that I often miss her terribly. Now, how ready are you to turn your hand to some mechanical repair work, eh? I have a great set of videos off of the F650.com website and have had a look at clutch replacement. Really not too difficult at all. Max is absolutely right, you run a Rotax for which Aprilla holds spares. At that mileage, you'll end up doing the replacement sooner or later anyways. If you like, you and I could give the repair a bash one evening next week at my place. Take a peak at my profile for contact detail etc. "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul"
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Hi Mike Thank you for the offer. I do have a Clymer Workshop Manual that I am currently browsing through. I'm still a bit hesitant to do some diy. Last time I worked on a bike was 12 years ago on my MBX. I feel that BMW need to repair the clutch so that I can get the 24 month guarantee. I'm up to any other minor repairs. See you on the road.

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No worries Henk. I see you are also in Durbanville. I have made a few copies of the 3 DVDs for the club and would be happy to drop them at your place if you like.
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Mike Saunders-DArKstAR wrote:
No worries Henk. I see you are also in Durbanville. I have made a few copies of the 3 DVDs for the club and would be happy to drop them at your place if you like.
Thanx Mike, that sounds great. I'll send you an e-mail with my particulars. Cheers HB

“Its all about the motorbikes, always has been and always will be. “ Ewan McGregor 2007 0823335473 henkbekker@vodamail.co.za

Corné (not verified)
Mike, Can I please get some copies of those DVD's? Thank you :-) Corné Kloppers 0849130391 ckloppers@gmail.com
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Sure Corné Will drop a set when I collect a copy of the 1200 disk. I'll let you know when I get a break.