AAhhh! BMW, Be My Wife!
29 October 2007 - 9:06am
AAhhh! BMW, Be My Wife!
I was the fourth person to be tested for a motorcycle drivers license on 25 October 2007 at Parrow traffic department. The first two people passed even though it was clear that they where extremely inexperienced riders… feet off the pegs and wobbly front wheel while turning etc. Both of them where taken through the test by http://www.motorcycletraining.co.za/ on a Yamaha TW200 (with the fat wheels). The third guy failed because of non working back light.
“AAhhh! BMW, Be My Wife!” That was the first sentence uttered to me by the stocky `spietkop` at the start of my license test. I wanted to respond to his remark but I was about to do my drivers licence test and thought it best just to bite my lip and grin/smile.
My test started with perfect pre-trip inspections and perfect incline pull away. I proceeded to the marked testing ground and completed the speed management and breaking manoeuvres perfectly. While doing the left turn manoeuvre the traffic officer was stationed in the middle of the demarcated area, about 15m away from where I did the left turn, he shouted at me to come back towards him.
He informed me that my front wheel touched the outer boundary line! I was shocked and protested that I know for a fact that I didn’t touch the boundary line especially from his position there is no way he could have determined without a doubt that my front wheel touched the line. He just laughed at me and said he doesn’t have to proof anything to me.
But the worst was when he said, “You white people think you can drive”. At that point I just decided not to stoop down to his level and ended our conversation, left the testing ground and made another appointment. Needless to say I have to wait another 3 months! 24 January 2008.
I will however not use my F650GS again to do the test and rather go with the people of http://www.motorcycletraining.co.za/ and use their Yamaha TW200 to do the test.
29 October 2007 - 9:22am
#1
Corne, Corne, hoe kook my bloed nou. Die vuilgoed het klaar te veel mense deur gesit vir die dag en jy moes toe maar sy kwota druipelinge aanhelp.
Hy het seker ook daai paloeka deur gesit wat my vanoggend AMPER van my fiets afgery het!! So naby die agterste footpeg is deur sy bumper opgelig.
29 October 2007 - 9:30am
#2
Corne, that's terrible, but that's just another step for SA going to the dogs. This deserves a posting on the arrive alive web site...
2007 Dakar
2005 F650GS(hers)
2005 R1100S BCR
www.twowheels.co.za
29 October 2007 - 9:43am
#3
Hi Max,
I actually want to take this further but then again what will my complaint accomplish? I will however post something on the Arrive Alive website, where on the website should I do it?
I'm not familiar with the http://www.arrivealive.co.za/ website.
All I want is my drivers licence so that I can carry a pillion legally :-)
Corné Kloppers
0849130391
ckloppers@gmail.com
29 October 2007 - 10:03am
#4
Corné, I know how you feel - you just want to get on with your life. However, it is apathy and ''walking-away'' that allows the problem to persist.
The way I see it is that you have three choices:
# Walk away, and hope that one of the idiots he passes doesn't hit you or anyone you care about in the future;
# Make a stand for what is right and wrong. Take him to the constitutional court for racist abuse. Report him to a higher authority.
# Say 'f-it', if that is how the game is played, then I can also play, and just do your own thing regardless of having a license or obeying the law.
Note, that options 1 and 3 are not good for South Africa in the long term, so if you follow those routes best you also start applying for residence in another country... ;-)
Julie and I used to be staunch ''bittereinders'', determined to help make our country great. Nowadays not so staunch.
regards
Charles
29 October 2007 - 10:08am
#5
Hey Corné,
Why don't you go with http://www.twowheels.co.za/ - I believe Max has non-BM bikes in his stable too?
Website Administrator
29 October 2007 - 10:36am
#6
Corne, that's terrible, but that's just another step for SA going to the dogs. This deserves a posting on the arrive alive web site...
2007 Dakar
2005 F650GS(hers)
2005 R1100S BCR
www.twowheels.co.za
I agree with Max fully, you need to report this to ThinkBike as well, so they can create awareness for other bikers wanting to pass out at that station as well.
It is so unfair, I know. Why not report him to the Corruption Fraud Line as well 0800-701-701 or http://www.nacf.org.za/index.html. That way, he can be investigated and things can be taken further.
He could even be monitored and video taped and because YOU had the guts to come forward he'd be removed from his position.
I understand that one's faith in the 'system' is shot, but we have to try and put a stop to this, we can't just sit back and complain or emigrate or bitch and moan, we need to make a stand and show them they can't get away with it!
There was corruption at the traffic dpt where I passed out in Caledon and those guys lost their jobs! It didn't happen with me and I wasn't aware of it, but the people whom it did affect reported them and they were fired.
Yes, we don't want to take the food out of another's mouth and their families and so on, but it's time we put a stop to being 'nice', because you're proof that nice-guys finish sleg laaste!
Sterkte boet!
Chasey
29 October 2007 - 1:20pm
#7
I think i am the only person to have 'hit' my Instructor and still passed. Happened some time ago, he said i must ride at him and when he puts up his hand, do an emergency stop - hence he lifted his and to late, jump on the back brakes (200XLR) put bike into slip and - WHACK! Clipboard flying hat flying what a sight. After he cooled done he marched me back to the office were he said that i had failed.
Now with nothing to loose, i made the biggest noise and demanded to see the CHIEF, F__K! i was going to go down swinging and get the most for my money now. The guy appears with more decorations on him that Addlery Street in Chritmas. I explain that no-one can stop a bike in that short distance and show him my skid marks offering my bike to any one there that can show me how to stop in such a short distance, no takers. He asks me to ride my bike "past him" and when he sticks up his hand do an emergency stop, whicjh i did perfectly! He then turns to the cop who i have just ridden over and says that i have passed my test so far and must contiune!!! Knees hit a wobble!!!! Long story short I passed.
Lesson 1: If unfair deal with it Immediately!
Lesson 2:Embarrass Technic, they have to go there tomorrow,it there place of work, you don't!
Lesson 3:You paid, fight for it.
Good luck!!!!
29 October 2007 - 1:59pm
#8
Greetings From Angola Gulp!!!
Concur Fully your sentiments!!! Personally recommend the Lavender Hill Option...???
Court cases etc. toooooo protracted and expensive and perp walks free
Lavender Hill Option:
D.I.Y > AK R500.00 With Clip R525.00 Messy if you dont know the weapon.
R1000.00> Kneecap No questions asked.
R1500.00> Done remotely for you make sure youre visible in foreign destination at time.
Cheers Brahman
29 October 2007 - 3:16pm
#9
R1500.00> Done remotely for you make sure youre visible in foreign destination at time.
Cheers Brahman
LOL ! :)
29 October 2007 - 3:34pm
#10
Dirty deeds done dirt cheap.
I RIDE THEREFORE I AM!
29 October 2007 - 5:34pm
#11
Bribe thru
29 October 2007 - 7:47pm
#12
Hey Corne I had a very similar experiance in greenpiont trafic department. long story short I went to book my drivers after riding without a licence for 18 years .Overheard chief of department verbally abusing two young ladies, whent to their rescue with my big mouth and helmet in front off about 200 people was also racially insulted by the head of the traffic dep ,left without making the appiontment and am still riding without a licence .will gladly pay the fines when I'm caught . But I won't set foot in a government building again. Still regret not taking it to the end over the racial thing. Take Charles's advise.
at times I ride faster than my guardian angle can fly
29 October 2007 - 8:24pm
#13
Desember 1986, old wooden crutches tied to the "crash bars" of a 200cc motorcycle, fresh out of the hospital (after a motorcycle accident). I turned 18 while in hospital. As soon as possible I rode to the old Brackenfell traffic department and parked outside their grounds under the trees. Hobbled into the building on crutches and wrote the learners test for the "big bike". You should have seen the cops face when realized I was writing the learners for a bike - while on crutches from a bike accident (I did have a licence for the 50cc on which I had the accident.) Can you imagine what he would have done if he ever figured out that I rode there on a bike, without a licence, but with crutches? :)
Sorry, back to the thread. Corne, next time have a dictaphone with you. He-said-she-said will not work for you - tooo pale. You know which "school" to use - if you want to pass without hassles. A dictaphone recording of their conversations maybe very interesting
29 October 2007 - 9:08pm
#14
Guacamole Padlangs
Dis 'n skande hoe jy jou teen so 'n jong ouderdom gedra het. Toe ek die storie lees het ek gedink dis Freak wat skryf. Ek is domgeslaan... (stilte)
30 October 2007 - 7:23am
#15
Jip Charles, Ek is n "gereabiliteerde Freak". Teen die tyd wat ek 21 was het ek al 75 ooo km afgele^ op motorfietse. n Vriend is toe oorlede in n absolute frats ongeluk. Die volgende dag het ek ALS verkoop. Vir amper 12 jaar in die verkeer gesit voor ek weer twee wiele aangeskaf het.
Die wat ek vandag nog so rustig ry, wanneer daar karre naby is of wanneer ek nie om die draai kan sien nie. Lang ooptes, sonder karre, nou dit is n ander storie. :)
30 October 2007 - 8:14am
#16
Lang ooptes, sonder karre, nou dit is n ander storie. :)
all the more reason to go "offroad" min karre!
i only work to support my hobbies!!
30 October 2007 - 8:32am
#17
Stille Water Diepe Grond Onder krap Padlangs rond. (Still waters run deep!!!) Padlangs and I go way back and remember the days when as a renegade Brooklyn/Maitland Biker, hardcore boozer and brawler he was feared at amongst others the Killarney, Voortrekker, Junction and Locomotive Hotels/Pubs in Cape Town.
Many a broken nose testified to his prowess as a boxer but he is most famous for parking doughnuts all down Voortrekker Road on his 49cc Velasolex Help My Trap and can therefore understand why Charles is shocked at the change in this ex-hooligan.
Back now to the original thread!!!!!...De La Rey!!!De Lay Rey sal Jy Die Bikers Teen Die Speedcops Kom Lei??? Generaal, Generaal De La Rey, De La Rey....
Cheers From Angola maybe when time allows type a report for the Forum on our (Bad Girl Alison and I) recent 10 Day 5,000 Kilometres problem free Tour after the Dolphin Rally around Lesotho/Durban/Transkei/Garden Route our RT has now done 60,000 Kilometres in 18 Months since new (beat that)!!!
Brahman
30 October 2007 - 4:10pm
#18
Hi Corne,
Did you attend the pre-GSC weekend at Matroosberg in September? May I assume from the BMW-comment that you are a female rider?
I have the most amasing pictures of a lady on a siver F650GS doiing the water crossing at the "deep" end! (Also photos of other riders.
regards
Jaco
19 February 2008 - 6:43pm
#19
On Saturday, my son reported at 9am to the Ottery Traffic Department to write his motorbike learners license. His original one had expired due to various buggerups at the traffic department that prevented him from doing his drivers test, and stopped his mother from booking a learners on his behalf while he was away.
Anyway - he was prevented from writing by the examiner, because he had his car driver's license as ID, not an ID book. '''But he let a woman write who had only her driver's''', and we discover today when he went to book yet-a-friggin-gain that '''a driver's license is valid ID for the learners test'''.
The woman at the counter waived the application fee and the eye-test and booked my son in for next Wednesday.
But I want somebody to shout at! Somebody to compensate me for wasted time, extra trips, stress, unnecessary hassle. I pay those @#$@'s salaries and all I get from them is BS.
If it wasn't for insurance purposes, I would tell my son to just ride without a license since they missed their chance to let him get one.
Corne, you are a patient man. I am fresh out of it.
19 February 2008 - 8:15pm
#20
Charles speak to Warren.
19 February 2008 - 8:32pm
#21
Charles I feel for you and your son. The bureaucracy runs deep at the traffic department. Cape Town seems to be better at helping people. Maybe go there?
The reason our South African drivers license cannot be accepted as proof of identity is because your full name is not printed on it... Yes have a look... only your initials and surname are on it... it doesn't matter that you have a finger print and photo on it... they want the full name.... and your identity document has your full name printed in it...
Good luck and don't loose faith , he will get it ;-)
PS. My girlfriends dad is also writing his motorcycle learners license in March. And he is 63! :-)
Corné Kloppers
0849130391
ckloppers@gmail.com
20 February 2008 - 6:33pm
#22
also ran out of patients a few years ago being riding for 18 years now without a licence got my first fine in ashton on friday if I was going to pay it it would be worth it .If only one man could change the system .Oh charles we all know what @#$@'s means LOL
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