2009 BMWMCC Membership & Fees status
21 August 2009 - 7:18am
We are now fast approaching the end of the year and we still have not managed to collect all the subs for 2009 (a mere R120 per annum).
The list below reflects all the members who are up to date with their fees.
If your name is not on the list, and you feel it should be, please mail me at anne@abarc.co.za or call me on 082 421 0003, and I will gladly follow up. :)
A very big thank you to those of you who paid timeously.
Ashmead Geoffrey
Bähr Peter
Ballantyne Andrew
Barnard Johannes
Bayhack Steven
Beck Uwe
Berry Neil
Bierman Michiel
Blignaut Paul
Boltman Chris
Booyens Johan
Bosch Vernon
Boss Ken
Botha Hennie
Botha Jacques
Bothe Raymond
Bothma Christopher
Bowles Timothy
Brink Robbie
Brown Lawrence
Burger Deon
Burton Mark
Campbell Gwyn
Campbell William
Carolin Richard
Carr John
Colman Martin
Connell Andy
Connell Anne
Conradie Ters
Cooper Gavin
Coram Wayne
Corfe John
Crawford Barry
Crooke Ian
Croukamp Melinda
de Jager David
de Jager Johan
de Klerk Diana
de Lange Barend
de Lange Corrie
de Lange Ruan
Denzl Wolfgang
Desodt Rony
De Stadler Steven
De Villiers Fanie
Diamond Aaron
Doyle Gavin
du Plessis Pierre
du Preez Johan
du Toit Neville
Dunn Belinda
Dunn Chris
Eastes Christopher
Edwards Dale
Ekron Buddy
Ellwood Natalie
Ellwood Warren
Els Bester
Engelbrecht Mandi
Engelke Gunther
Esterhuyse Abel
Frylinck Chris
Fulton Carolyn
Gaertner Olaf
Gay Andrew
Geary Derrick
Gibson Harley
Gregory Michael
Grinton Chris
Gunter Conrad
Guyeu Jean-Pierre
Hamman John Snr
Hammond Alan
Hendrickse Jane
Henke Gunter
Herbert Lawrence
Hidden Sean
Higgs Dave
Hill Anni
Horstmann Phillip
Hoskins Shane
Human Nicky
Irvine Wyn
Jackson Nicolaas
Jonker Wynand
Jooste David
Judd Hedley
Kachel Gerrie '''(please email me your details)'''
Khan Hamid
King Jabez
Kirkman Peter
Kite Geoffrey
Kloppers Corne
Knoetze Erik
Koen Gerhard
Korb Erica
Korck Ivor
Kroucamp Leon
Kruger Jacques
Kushner Alvin
Kuhn Werner
Lange Max
Laue Clayton
Layden Kevin
Lewis Jacques
Leyck Boris
Lombard Christo
Lombard Morné
Lourens Rhoderic
Louw Vanessa
Louwrens Malcolm '''please email me details'''
MacDonald Don
Madden Lindsay
Malan Danie
Maltby Dave
Mann Peter
Marais Anton
Marais Jaco
Maree Josver
Maritz Gerhard
Martin Jeremy
Martin John
Maytom Dennis
McDonald Nigel
McGahey John
McGivern Ian
Mellville Warren
Messenger Brian
Messenger Roz
Millar Gordon
Millington Keith
Minicki Frances
Mitchell Spiro
Moat Guy
Moore Glenda
Moore Lawrence
Mouton JJ
Muller Dirk
Muller Paul
Myburgh Colin
Nelson Daniel
Nepgen Karl
Nicolls Gavin
Nieder-Heitman Magda
Nortmann Hannes
Oertel Charles
Oertel Matthew
O'Hanlon Peter
Olivier Johan
Ostler Ernest
Parbhoo Dipak
Pattenden Duncan
Pausa Maurizio
Pohl (Wood)Karin
Pollock Karen
Pool Kobus
Rathbone Russ
Rathbone Gis
Rauch Renette
Rautenbach Cheryl
Rautenbach George
Rautenbach Nicole
Reeves Keith
Reinke Frans
Riley Triston
Roffey John
Rossouw Arno
Rossouw H D
Rossouw Johann
Russell Geoff
Russell Noelene
Rust Sakkie
Saunders Michael
Saunders Vanessa
Schoeman Ben
Schlee Tony
Silverman Rick
Slabber Jacques
Smit Charl
Smit Charl
Smit Theo
Smith Renier
Steenkamp Anton
Steenkamp Piet
Steyn Ian
Strohman Mike
Swiegelaar Johann
Tate Kevin
Terblanche Emile
Terblanche Jacobus
Terry Neil
Teulings Ralph
Thomas Steve
Tillett Greg
Todd Sean
Tomes Sharon
Townsend Peter
Troost Pieter
Truter Danie
Truter Niel
van Aardt Sarel
van der Vyver Andre
van der Vyver Steph
van der Westhuizen Chris
van der Westhuizen Lukas
van Emmines Thys
van Emmines Michelle
van Heerden Tiaan
van Jaarsveld Martin
van Jaarsveld Willie
van Niekerk Mike
van Niekerk Ronis '''please email me details'''
van Niekerk Tanya
van Rensburg Lourens
van Zyl Aré
Venter Frans
Verhoef Gabriel
Verhulp Ian
Verhulp Rene
Vermaak Jeanne
Vigus Christopher
Viljoen Du Toit
Vingerhoets Henk
Wakfer Glenn
Walmsley Clifford
Wank Allan
Watson Jenny
Webb Greg
Wiese Tobie
Wilken Neels
Wilmot Phillip
Wilson Isabeau
Wilson Ray
Wood Gavin
Young Mark
Zulch John
= Total '''237'''
Mr "R Sole" (joker) paid R120.00 ref SUBS!! but I don't know who you are - please email or call me. :)
Those that have not paid can pay the R120.00 into the following account :
Bank account details:
First National Bank
Branch: Long Street
Branch code: 201709 (Standard Bank users must add 2 zeros at the end)
A/c no: 50060098602
A/c name: BMW Motorcycle Club Cape
Ref: Your Name&Surname +"Subs"
Please send confirmation of payment to :
russell@aroma.co.za
26 August 2009 - 7:44am
#1
updated
26 August 2009 - 9:37am
#2
Still 45 people who have not yet paid despite numerous efforts to get them to do so..
They will be removed from the membership list shortly!!!!!!
26 August 2009 - 10:07am
#3
Geoff how many DAYS does DSTV give you to pay your account before you are switched off?
Membership is due in January, the club gives grace for a month or two, to assist with depleted christmas budgets. Which is greatly appreciated.
At this stage of the year no-payers have clearly indicated their decision to no longer be members.
At least, that is how I see it.
26 August 2009 - 11:16am
#4
In my opinion people that up to now still have not paid for 2009 have made their intention very clear, why even bother with them?
Only my opinion, what do I know?
Thank you Annie for all your effort !! ;-)
Johan de Jager
"It's all about the ride, nothing else"
26 August 2009 - 1:00pm
#5
Perhaps it might be useful to reiterate the advantages of being a paid up member as against a forum member, or simply just a BMW enthusiast.
26 August 2009 - 1:15pm
#6
Members should also be aware that by joining the forum they are NOT club members yet.
Details of membership application and procedures can be found at http://www.bmwmotorcycleclubcape.co.za/join-us
Cheers
Lawrence
STARCOM SOUTH AFRICA - DEALER AND DISTRIBUTOR
LONGWAY MOTO - Motorcycle Tours and Rentals
021-554-3573
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26 August 2009 - 1:38pm
#7
I say delete them. Also, make the fees more realistic, R130 is far to cheap. No memeber, no forum.
26 August 2009 - 3:30pm
#8
Chris another biker forum works on the principle that being a forum member only allows limited access.
You have to be a paid up member to access the for sale and other "value added" sections. Forum members only can only see the banter, not trip report, planned events etc.
This limites access "motivates" people to join fully
26 August 2009 - 4:22pm
#9
27 August 2009 - 6:25am
#10
As a club service, we encourage visitors to the site and forum.
If we can make a small difference to peoples enjoyment of motorcycling then we get the job done.
I advocate that non club members should pay a small premium and no priority for club organised events.
No paid-up-member should be wait-listed for an event if non-members are written up.
Your entry as a non member should be pending the event not being filled by members.
Non members pay more.
I give up my time and effort for the club, I think it is only fair that non members support events more than members in cost.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
26 August 2009 - 6:12pm
#11
I also will give preference to paid-up-members when selelcitng ride marshals for cycling/sport events.
The list opens to non members only if i cannot get enough member support..... then I go begging.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
26 August 2009 - 6:18pm
#12
I also note that guests may ride twice on a brekky ride organised by the BMWMCCC, After 2 rides we expect them to join the club or go ride in their own group.
Ride captains do this as a service and it is a HUGE, no HUMOUNGOUS responsibility to lead a ride.
By joining as amember you do agree to uphold the ethos of the club and are obliged to behave accordingly.
As a non-member the club has no recourse against you.
Before I whisper FIFO, I'd rather have non-members argue the toss or join. We need you all.
The "All the passes" accomodation gets paid way in advance out of club funds.
We need to have that buffer.
We only collect payment for bookings after we secure the venue.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
26 August 2009 - 6:35pm
#13
Thanks Andy, I think this is the kind of clarity that we need, rather than to antagonise potential members by shouting PU or PO.
''Just for the record, I am a paid-up member... just being devil's advocate.''
27 August 2009 - 1:50pm
#14
i agree with andy 100% the members should come first
i only work to support my hobbies!!
27 August 2009 - 2:24pm
#15
Worth noting that another 20 people paid up in the last few days ....
27 August 2009 - 4:34pm
#16
I'm probably guilty of joining club rides and not being a member.
The only "obstacle" to becoming a member in my case is the the requirement to attend a club meeting prior to joining. I have not been to attend todate for various reasons (business trips primarily).
I agree with the sentiments expressed re: time and effort to run the club and all its activities and have derived much benefit from the forum and spending time with club members on rides.
I am happy to join and pay subs right away (if the abovementioned requirement could be waived).
Tony
We should learn from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
27 August 2009 - 4:53pm
#17
I have sent you a PM.
Geoff
27 August 2009 - 5:04pm
#18
The rationale about attending a club meeting is to assess if the person is reasonable and not going to be a real objectionable piece of work.
Natural enough as it's a lot harder to get rid of someone than it is to reject an application.
You and us would like like-minded enthusiasts on the club and find it awkward if meetings or rides were disrupted by someone who should never have been there in the first place.
I suggest you remember who the club captain was on a ride and ask them to propose you on merit.
That's one way around it.
Thanks for the post.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
27 August 2009 - 5:12pm
#19
I don’t often attend club meetings and rides, simply because I’m too far from Cape Town. However, I have gained some valuable information, insights, and understanding for all things beemer through the website and people that I have met through the website. If only for that, I am paying my membership fees and would like to encourage other website users to do the same. One should not be too ethical in your approach to life. However, it sometimes pays to do the right thing! In short, people who are using this website on a regular basis should pay their club fees because it is the right thing to do – not because someone else have ask them to or because we are restricting the use of the website to those who have paid. It is these small things that build great societies!
The ride is the destination.
27 August 2009 - 5:33pm
#20
Hey Abel
We know you. You can join the club any time you want, I'm sure you won't be short of volunteers to second your application :).
But seriously, thanks for joining on the basis of the value we provide even though you could have taken advantage of it for free. If I remember correctly, you were most concerned when you came to the first ride or workshop event about joining the club before you took advantage of it. We need more people like you!
regards
Charles
27 August 2009 - 5:41pm
#21
I was a dooz riding in shirtsleeves and shorts, plakkies foir 30 years until Dave Higgs really worked my case to join on a club ride and join the club.
He and Neil Berry even almost refused to sell me my RT's unless I went ATTGAT and developed an ATTGATT mentality.
I joined the club and was shit-scared of gravel, but the mentoring I got from March 2007 to now and ongoing has developed my skills exponentially with each interaction.
I would not be riding the bike I do (dual sport) and have the riding skills I have now without the fantastic mentoring I get from the club.
So giving back is great for me, and I'd like to know it's members that benefit.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
27 August 2009 - 8:52pm
#22
All sorted.
Application done online, monies deposited and proof of payment sent to Geoff, just waiting for "final approval" by committee. Hopefully Brian Messenger and Dave Higgs will vouch for me :) .
I was not aware of the "2 ride rule" and did procrastinate - thanks for the nudge Andy. Sometimes I (we) just need a little help to overcome that initial inertia.
Tony
We should learn from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
28 August 2009 - 1:53am
#23
As a club service, we encourage visitors to the site and forum.
If we can make a small difference to peoples enjoyment of motorcycling then we get the job done.
I advocate that non club members should pay a small premium and no priority for club organised events.
No paid-up-member should be wait-listed for an event if non-members are written up.
Your entry as a non member should be pending the event not being filled by members.
Non members pay more.
I give up my time and effort for the club, I think it is only fair that non members support events more than members in cost.
Andyman
Yup that's me. Standing up in the traffic on the 1150GSA.
I wholehertedly agree with Andy and would be quite prepared to participate in BMWMCC events on this basis.
I am not a BMWMCC member, but enjoy the forum tremendously. I love following the activities such as all the fantastic individual member's trips, club trips and activities such as organized off-road trips, initiatives that individual members organize and the participation of the members in such activities such as the Elim, Nelson's Creek, Wild Coast trips, Sutherland trips, Cedarberg trips, Track days, other riding skills initiatives, etc, etc. I also love following the (very interesting) technical discussions and just in general, from what I see on the forum, the BMWMCC has a vibe and comaraderie to be envied by many clubs.
Until recently, I was riding an R1200GS, and hence my initial interest in the forum, which I am not shy to say, I am hooked on now.
I live just around the corner from the garage where you all normally meet for your runs and on many a Sunday morning I pull in there to fill up to go on my club's breakfast runs, see you all gathering there, and am tempted to abandon my run and go on one of yours, just to meet the ''physical side of the forum'', although indeed, I already know some of them.
But THAT is exactly my problem. I belong to another well respected, and one of the oldest clubs, in Cape Town (the one that organizes the Buff ;)). I have been a member of that club for 24 years now. Unfortunately, I believe that one should not be a member of more than one club at a time, as where would one's loyalties lie? Call it old fashioned if you like. I think that if I did NOT belong to my current club, I would not hesitate to join BMWMCC. Also, not that I would want to, but how do I resign from a club where I am an Honourary Member?
What I DO do, to try and make up for the pleasure that I get out of the forum without being a BMWMCC member, is donate to some of your initiatives like the Elim children, Nelson's Creek children, etc. if my finances allow it. It gives me great pleasure to follow these on the forum, and if circumstances had allowed, I had every intention of joining you on the last Elim initiative for example. Unfortunately an ''all fall down'' in the Cedarberg put paid to that and other activities for quite some time.
So, can I stay? Pleeeeeez! :)
28 August 2009 - 9:46am
#24
I can definitely vouch for Tony and Adrienne as they have been riding with me on various rides and tours. Welcome into the club Tony.
28 August 2009 - 10:29am
#25
Hey MarkS, Don't stress man! it will kill you.
I have been a member of this club for some time now and watched it grow. The effort that some members go to for the pleasure and enjoyment of others soooo unselfishly is something to behold, I have also met the most amazing people, but that has not stopped me from joining another club, for the over fourty's you know,and they too are a great bunch of people. It is also good to see the views of others and how they do things.
No pressure sir, come to one of our meetings or club ride and see how we do things with the all important end objective----- Place bum in the saddle and have fun.
Feet on the pegs & bum in the saddle.
28 August 2009 - 11:13am
#26
Remember too that Clubs for Africa, an initiative through BMW, contributes a small amount to the club for each paid up member.
You'll probably realise that if we were to survive only on the minimal membership fee paid by members we would not have the facilities, qualities, skills and abilities that make the club run.
So, your membership not only contributes by your fee but also but the subsidy received.
Lawrence
STARCOM SOUTH AFRICA - DEALER AND DISTRIBUTOR
LONGWAY MOTO - Motorcycle Tours and Rentals
021-554-3573
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadsides, loudly p
28 August 2009 - 12:17pm
#27
Best thing, besides buying my beautiful Ben, was to join the club. But off the topic: Andy mention ATTGAT - what does it mean?
Chicks Dig Dirt
28 August 2009 - 12:33pm
#28
I enjoy the forum and sometimes try to contribute something positive.
Unfortunately I am not a club member due to the fact that I can not attend the meetings and also work over week-ends when most of the club's activities are held.
After you've decided whether a forum member also must be a club member or not, please let me know - so that I can decide to pay up or shut up.
28 August 2009 - 12:44pm
#29
ATGATT = All The Gear All The Time
Thus dont ride in plakkies and shorts ....
28 August 2009 - 1:52pm
#30
After you've decided whether a forum member also must be a club member or not, please let me know - so that I can decide to pay up or shut up.
forum members do not need to be club members.
30 August 2009 - 9:55am
#31
It is very very unlikely that the forum will be restricted in any way (other than the occasional chucking out of a troll). This is why:
# The website attracts members. That is how I found the club: Google, breakfast run, now webmaster to-not-be :)
# It forms a community even for non-members, such as JohanM and others who cannot join for various reasons.
# If we start restricting access, we also prevent search engines from accessing parts of the site. This will affect how easily tourists, visitors from overseas, and overlanders can make contact with the club when they are in Cape Town.
# Many people benefit from the safety lessons, riding discussions and are influenced by the attitude projected by the club - this is an important service to all bikers and motorists.
So please, I don't want anybody to feel unwelcome here - whether you are a lurker or a club member or just an occasional browser.
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31 August 2009 - 11:59am
#32
Well said Charles.
Pete da Mann
31 August 2009 - 12:37pm
#33
Hi there,
Also not a Club member purely as I can not make it to club meetings. Have attended all Nelson's Creek gatherings and did a few club rides over the last three years. I get a lot from the forum and also believe it is the right thing to pay up. What and how? Please help me.
regards
Jaco Marais
31 August 2009 - 12:52pm
#34
Hi Jaco Thanks.
If you go to the "About Us" menu and click on "Join Us", you will find everything you need to know, and you will also be able to complete an online membership application.
2 September 2009 - 2:40pm
#35
I've kept the list updated on a daily basis.
Please check to see whether your name appears on the list. If you've made an EFT payment in the last 7 or 8 days, but have not mailed me the payment advice, please could you let me know? We are only able to collect bank statements about once a week.
3 September 2009 - 1:32pm
#36
Ok, can I just say something. I paid my membership fees and have never been to a club meeting. I mostly work those evenings. I actually can't remember who told me it's OK I don't have to have come to a meeting to join but we leave it at that.
Certain attitudes on this forum has made me think twice about joining breakfast runs etc because there does seem to be a bit of arrogance from some and if I read some of the responses it just proves the fact.
I will try to join more activities this year but if it's going to be the same old story I will just move on and ride by myself. Maybe this could be the reason membership is dwindling....
3 September 2009 - 1:51pm
#37
Maritz a few people have made the following comment at/after breakfast runs: "Where are those characters from the forum?".
When those very charaters DID attend the run.
Fact is "forum behaviour" has very little to do with "real behaviour". The reasons for this has been debated at length, and we are no closer to an answer.
BREAKFAST RUNS: DO attend at least one run. The "real" people are a very nice bunch!!
During the last 5 years I have seen and experienced things which I would never have encountered if it was not for Dave, Brian, Geoff, Cheezy, and many other members of this club.
PLEASE, do not measure this group of people by random forum comments.
3 September 2009 - 1:54pm
#38
Thanks Gerhard!
The committee really goes to long lengths to organise, coordinate and lead lots of rides, events and activities. There are lots to choose from - so make an effort and try and join us on these occasions - we have heaps of fun! The club meetings are both social and informative events once a month and we have heaps of fun here too - but it is not obligatory to attend - it's just lekker to meet all the club members!
But...it's all about the riding and commeraderie as you will see from the many trip reports...
:) :)
3 September 2009 - 1:56pm
#39
Hey Maritz - Every club has it's wallies, but don't let that put you off. Some of us try not to be wallies all the time.
Oscar Wilde is said to have claimed that he would not be a member of any club that would have him as a member... Luckily Oscar Wilde was not a good role model.
3 September 2009 - 2:00pm
#40
Maritz,
I echo what Padlangs and Annie have said please try and come and join us one day/evening.
I assure you that you will have loads of fun and meet a great bunch of people.
Not sure where you stay but you have a month to keep the last Tuesday of this month open to come and join us and our group of merry ladies and men.
There is something for everyone in this Club.
Hey you can even braai some meat before the meeting starts. Lots of people do!!
Geoff
3 September 2009 - 2:07pm
#41
Will do guys (and gal). ;)
I'm sure 99.5% of people in this club are great people so I'm not painting everybody with the same brush.
I will see you soon and make a plan to come out more. Maybe convince the wife when the rain stop to join me on a Bfast run. She says she will 'smelt' if she gets wet...
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